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 Post subject: Unit2 Test Answered all correctly, but showed I missed one
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:46 am 
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Just took my Unit 2 test. After I pressed submit, it showed I missed one question. Being the inquisitive person that I am, I went back to my course materials to see why I missed it and to discover the correct answer as given on my test grade.

Question # 28:
If a negative is very flat, the probable cause is:
a) Underexposure.
b) Overexposure.
c) Matte film.
d) An overused film iron.

I chose b) Overexposure.

The test said I got it wrong and stated:

X28) If a negative is very flat, the probable cause is:

Correct Answer:
A : A flat negative is most often caused by underexposure, although underdevelopment may contribute to a flat negative as well.
You Answered: B Correct Answer: A

Text material:
On page 23 of Developing Black and White Film, it clearly states:

Compare this negative with the "normal" negative. Observe how the brightest highlight areas are no longer almost black, but a much lighter gray.
The resulting print has weak, overall gray tones, with no deep blacks and no brilliant whites.
What made this negative flat? Since the subject and lighting permitted high contrast, we must look elsewhere.
Gross overexposure is a possible cause. If the exposure was probably correct, then underdevelopment may be the cause.

And on page 24, the second set of images: Normal Exposure--Underdeveloped: Thin; flat, but with detail throughout.
Also on the same page, the third set of images: Overexposed--Underdeveloped: Flat, but with full detail.


I did call the school and spoke with an advisor (whom I did not recognize). She at first said I probably didn't answer the question. I stated that I did. Then I further explained that the answer that the Test states is correct is in fact not correct and I told the advisor which page it can be found in the text. She said, "will it change your grade to have your test corrected?" I said, "No, (I will still have an A+, but a 98%) but it's the Principal that matters." She asked "what would you like me to do?" I said, "change my grade". She asked for my student number and said it will be changed.

What is more important here is this: The test really needs to be reviewed and fix the "glitch" that marked a correct answer incorrect and gave an incorrect answer as the correct answer.

Yeah, I may be picky, (if I didn't say anything, I'd still have an A+) but we are here to learn and in every Unit, the request by our Dean is this: If you find any errors, please don't hesitate to bring them to our attention. And I did.



And.....I'm moving on to Unit 3, sending in my photo assignments today for Unit 2.
Boy, does that ever feel Good!
;D

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 Post subject: Re: Unit2 Test Answered all correctly, but showed I missed one
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:59 pm 
Congrats and well done.


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 Post subject: Re: Unit2 Test Answered all correctly, but showed I missed one
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:05 pm 
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Hi Karen,

Way to go on the A+. Thanks for bringing that particular question to our attention. I'll bring that up with our curriculum developer now! We appreciate your feedback on that. Also, if you would like to discuss traditional darkroom methods further, please feel free to email Jerry Rice who has a tremendous amount of knowledge in this area. His email is jerry@nyip.com

Thanks again!

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 Post subject: Re: Unit2 Test Answered all correctly, but showed I missed one
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:26 pm 
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Thank you Gavin. :)

Thank you Chris, I do own a Nikon FE and would love to get into developing my own film one day...but I do not have the materials or the time right now. But I'll certainly keep Jerry in mind when I do get to that route. ;D

Thanks again guys!

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 Post subject: Re: Unit2 Test Answered all correctly, but showed I missed one
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Karen,

We've updated the online test thanks to your input. We truly appreciate your input on this!

Best regards,

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 Post subject: Re: Unit2 Test Answered all correctly, but showed I missed one
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:32 pm 
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Hey! If I'm not mistaken, that exact same thing happened to me on that particular question. :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:41 pm 
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I have the same answer as you.. :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Unit2 Test Answered all correctly, but showed I missed one
PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:33 pm 
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I can only suggest you contact your student advisor to change your grade.

I'm glad they got it fixed now.
:)

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