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 Post subject: Water Pump
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:15 pm 
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Hi All,

Here is a picture of a water pump at a paddy field, and picture of a fishing boat. I would appreciate your feedback and comments.


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 Post subject: Re: Water Pump
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:06 pm 
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The drain does nothing for me. Love the boat but I feel crowded because it has no where to go in the composition. Better to have left some area in frame to front of boat. I worked on tone a bit to pull more detail out.


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 Post subject: Re: Water Pump
PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:29 pm 
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Hi Donna,

I feel the same about the water pump shot. It would have been a little better if I had captured the point where the water splashes on the ground.

Thank you for your comment on the boat shot, and for taking the time to work on the tone. Again, I agree with you about capturing more of the foreground, and I feel that the picture would be enhanced if I had captured a little of the surrounding area.

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 Post subject: Re: Water Pump
PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:45 am 
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donnau wrote:
The drain does nothing for me. Love the boat but I feel crowded because it has no where to go in the composition. Better to have left some area in frame to front of boat. I worked on tone a bit to pull more detail out.


+1, totally agree with Donna on this.

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 Post subject: Re: Water Pump
PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:21 pm 
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I cannot add anything to the comments so ++1.

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 Post subject: Re: Water Pump
PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:09 am 
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I have looked at the water pump shot many times, and I must also agree that it does nothing even to me!

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 Post subject: Re: Water Pump
PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:32 pm 
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Ranjit wrote:
I have looked at the water pump shot many times, and I must also agree that it does nothing even to me!


Ranjit, Can I ask why you posted it then? I am not being funny I just want to understand why you felt like sharing it. I have posted work I was not comfortable with in the past but then I was just trying to get my work out there not releasing that it was doing more harm than good.

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 Post subject: Re: Water Pump
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:10 am 
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Hi Si,

At first, I thought it was a photo worth submitting for a review. I only started feeling that the picture did not do much after Donna, Marie and you pointed it out.

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 Post subject: Re: Water Pump
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:17 am 
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Ranjit wrote:
Hi Si,

At first, I thought it was a photo worth submitting for a review. I only started feeling that the picture did not do much after Donna, Marie and you pointed it out.


no problem.

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 Post subject: Re: Water Pump
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:42 pm 
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Hi, Ranjit.

I've looked at these shots several times and I agree that the boat could use some room to picture left and the tones could be worked a bit, but, for the water pump shot, I don't think it's as bad as everyone else, including yourself, think it is.

For several reasons, the most interesting feature of the shot, and I think the real subject, is the water. In your posted shot the water is a little hot in areas and I couldn't pull the texture out in those areas, but you weren't shooting for the water texture, so my comment is specific to making the water and the water texture you have captured by freezing the motion the subject.

Cropping to the dynamic flow of the water as a line and adjusting the rest of the image to support that (tone it down some, reduce the saturation some), I got this.

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Is it a great shot? No, and it's not a great edit either :lol: but it's more interesting because of the texture and the water actually seems (at least to me) wetter. The backiground maintains the agricultural context and a shot like this could be used several ways commercially.

One of the weaknesses in your originally posted shot is that the water hits the right hand corner, almost bisecting it. I'm not sure why this happens, but lines of any kind that lead out of the image at the corners tend to draw the viewer's eyes out of image frame. In my crop, the water is still going out of the frame, but the framing has a little 'visual resistance' and the eyes don't have as strong a tendency to leave the shot. A slight vignette at the edge would tgend to keep the eyes in the shot and exploring the rest of the shot.

Anyway, I'm giving the water shot a ;D with a little work on it. Not all the shots we take are required to be the shot we have to use. We find them in the shot we took, so I call them discovered shots, but I'm not sure that they are discovered as much as when I look at the capture I have I'm looking for what the specific strengths are and things sometimes jump out at me and I get a different interpretation.

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